Not in the Kingdom Hall, but when homework and preparing for the meetings were clashing, I had a panic attack in school in front of my class when I tried to give a presentation.
Joel Wideman
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Embarrassing things that happened to you on the platform?
by Jordan ini remember one of my last talks, it was a bible reading, i was 15, and on crutches.
i tripped getting up on the platform and took the mic stand with me.
that was embarrassing.
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Earthquake in the Middle East (Urgent)
by EliJah in19 and the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and babylon the great was remembered in the sight of god, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath.
20 also, every island fled, and mountains were not found.
21 and a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed god due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great.. meaning: the nations are of the twelve tribes of israel in the middle east.
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Joel Wideman
EliJah: NOT A SINGLE FORM OF LIFE WILL DIE AT THE HAND OF "ALMIGHTY JAH" AND "JESUS CHRIST".
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Can true Christianity have some false prophets and still be true Christians
by booker-t ini know this sounds like a "totally" stupid question and i don't mean to offend religious people but i was talking to two jw's elders the other day at my apartment.
they came by even though they know i am disassocated and don't want to go back to the wt.
they think they can convince me that they are the truth and i would go back.
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Joel Wideman
Qcmbr: If your bible interpretation is so plain and easy to follow how come there are thousands of denominations who disagree on basic scriptures?
There are two reasons. One is that they do not differ on essential doctrines - that which make them Christian - but only on the nonessential ones. The Bible _allows_ us to disagree on these nonessential points. The "denominations" that disagree with essential Christian doctrine cannot be Christian. I'll leave finding these essential doctrines as an excersize for the reader, lest someone get the impression that I'm attacking their own faith. :D
The other explanation is human failure. But our salvation or damnation does not depend on our differences, but on our relationship with Christ.
I find it amusing that you'd use a Catholic anti-Protestant argument. I find it equally amusing that the same argument can be applied to Mormonism, of which the LDS Church is only one denomination. (The argument also applies to Catholocism, of course.) -
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worry about yourself. who cares what everyones else does...
by What_is_ur_point inwhy do witness, xwitness, disassociated witness, disfellowshipped witness, atheists.. why doesn't everyone worry about themselves.
it's so pointless when someone like me raises certain opinion's that cant be breached here on the message boards.
people say that they win against people like me.. ?
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Joel Wideman
It's hard to heal when you don't talk about it.
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Are artist's faces copyrighted?
by Lilycurly in.
this might seem like a strange question...but if anyone's familiar with the concept of copyrights.... i am thinking of making an illustrated book including quotes from various inspirational music and movie artists complete with artistic portraits of the artists (that are not copied from photographs...) and i was wondering if i could get sued over something like that...
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Joel Wideman
This isn't a copyright issue at all, but has to do with publicity. Legally, you may not use someone's name or likeness promotionally. However, the way you are using it is not infringing. The caveat is that you still risk being sued and your publisher may or may not provide you with a legal defense. (Most publishers have a clause in the contract that indemnifies them.)
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well they did not reinstate me!! dont know how i feell!
by Cordelia inwell any of u that read my post about reinstatement will know what im on about basically i put my letter in for my family ive been dfed since march and they so want me back,.
but the lovely elders took a month to get back to me and then said they were gonna leave it as i have the wrong motive as i am doing it for my family not jehovah, (which of course i am but they werent meant toknow that!
) thing is in my reinstatement meeting i knew exactly what i was doing i knew exactly what i should not and should say and said all the wrong things because i didnt want it,.
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Joel Wideman
Cordelia, JWs learn to put the organization first, themselves never. But an important part of Christianity is, as Jesus said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. We cannot do this without having love for ourselves.
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"I've decided to block your e-mail" (response from an almost-JW)
by AlmostAtheist inthere was a poster on jwd that left her email address in a post.
she was clearly a study, not yet baptized.
she was on jwd, so it sounded like she might be open to a maybe-they-don't-have-the-truth sort of discussion.. i emailed her my birthday write up with a note explaining that i didn't think the watchtower "lied" (as was mentioned in the jwd post she was responding to), but that they made disengenuous comments in order to keep people in the organization, sincerely believing that it was necessary for them to please god.. she responded, thanked me for the note, and said that she had stumbled onto jwd by accident, looking for an online copy of the km.
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Joel Wideman
"This is my own decision, no one else's."
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hi new to this
by cranwood inhello this is my first time on this web site.i am an inactive jw.
married to a jw.didnt believe in there teachings for many years.. looked and read at your site for along time.
its one of the best.iam not very good at typing or spelling.and cyber communication.. hard to have a marriage when one believes and the other one doesnt.we were both raised jws .but i changed and she didnt.. common story.too years to learn to think for myself.
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Joel Wideman
Welcome!
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Can true Christianity have some false prophets and still be true Christians
by booker-t ini know this sounds like a "totally" stupid question and i don't mean to offend religious people but i was talking to two jw's elders the other day at my apartment.
they came by even though they know i am disassocated and don't want to go back to the wt.
they think they can convince me that they are the truth and i would go back.
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Joel Wideman
Scripturally speaking, no. There are no two ways about this - someone who prophecies in the name of God and their prophecies prove to be false, demonstrably does not speak for God. I find it curious that this Elder would use the arguments of - or at least ones simular to - Shabir Ally, a Muslim whose anti-Christian arguments are rebutted here. The Elder is not asking you to accept JWs as Christians, he's asking you to reject Christianity.
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Since you left or were pushed out...
by mrsjones5 inof the watchtower society organization what have you done with your life?
interesting, not so interesting, i want it all.
any story of survival after being associated with the organization is wanted and of interest.. come one come all!.
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Joel Wideman
I've struggled to learn something with which I could earn a living. I've regretted lost opportunities. I've served my country as a member of the military, and was fortunate to do so in a time of peace. I've discovered joy and happiness in being myself. I've learned how to socialize without trying to convert. I've taken up smoking and managed to quit. I've learned that learning by experience is much better than learning by rote.
I've become free.